Story of the Unworthy
by shz
Yesterday as usual I login in the Facebook. And then something caught my eye – “6 of your friends become a fan of I hate (a photographer)“. Oddly enough my first thought was, that was long overdue. I shared this with my husband and we spent almost all afternoon laughing our asses off reading all sort of things people wrote in that page. It was hilarious and the things that has been revealed in there are appalling! Couldn’t help feeling how pathetic he is if what they said in there were true. If, I said. Anyway, apparently he made some kind of statement that offended another group of photographers, which led to some anonymous person creating this group. Surprisingly enough, a lot of well known photographers in Malaysia made it so open about their feelings towards him by joining this group. I’m not going to mention any names, but it’s pretty obvious.
Somehow this made me reminisce my previous experience with him although I never met him personally. Some of you might remember my days in Fotopages. Honestly I had a time of my life sharing my photos with people at that time. I was constantly happy because almost everyday I read people responded to my photos and how emotional some of it made them. I was humbled by it, I was just some random girl experimenting with camera and expressing whatever I was feeling at that time through images. I had no bigger ambitions, it was just a past time hobby. And then for some reason gradually as I became well known to many, I felt some kind of heat or invisible competition that this photographer tried to stir, whether through comments made in his Fotopages or imitations of language or thought he had towards my works.
It didn’t affected me much at that time. I didn’t think I was involved with the industry. I didn’t have to take exams or registered with any bodies to call myself photographer. I had a camera, I was active taking pictures, so I guess I was a photographer – only by hobby, not profession. But still, a photographer. He on the other hand is a photographer by profession. I guess he got a lot to lose if people think someone else can do a hell lot of a better job than him, so I kind of at that time understood where he came from. I didn’t mind much the things he did to make himself seem more superior than others, I thought, let him be. People who understands photography, the history behind, the essence of it are able to judge good works from mediocre. A layman’s eye is not an expert eye. Although his works in the naked eye seems quite impressive, I still couldn’t help myself feeling that they were actually, just merely mundane. He has other photographers under his company who I believe were taught to create photographs of something alike with his and held workshops teaching people how to photograph like he does. I just thought, when you can tell someone how to photograph like you do and when people actually can do exactly how you do it, your works are nothing but common. I looked around. A lot of people are imitating his styles, he must be pressured all the time trying to be different or constantly having to change into something new.
Photography to me is personal. I honestly do not know how to answer when people ask how I do it. It’s just the way I see things. Only you yourself know the things in the world that are significant to you. Your interests which usually become your subject matter are only yours and yours alone. It might be the same to others, but the ways of seeing are never is. This is my basic understanding with photography and this is how photography varies.
But even from the very beginning I never got a positive vibes about him.I usually find arrogance in his words, bragging of things supposedly he has achieved and quite an egoist. Maybe he needed to do that to boost his confidence, which if its true, I think served him pretty well. At first I thought I was naive for thinking about him that way, until one day his offer to cover my wedding free of charge fell into my lap. Honestly at that time I was tempted, since there would be one last thing to worry about in my messy head trying to organize my Malaysian wedding from UK. But of course, it is not entirely free of charge. He demanded a good testimonial from me in his website, whether I would like his works or not. Suffice to say, he wanted my artistic approval over his works. I felt honored at that time – here comes a person who apparently made millions doing this business, still requires a nod from a nobody like me. I hesitated, it felt like one of those movies in Bedazzled or Ghost Rider or Devil’s Advocate where you have to sell your soul. Hahaha, but I wouldn’t be that dramatic. I knew what I felt about his works so at the end, it didn’t happen – I didn’t think I can lie and give a good testimonial to his works. Even at the end of it he still wanted to say something about how he won’t lose so much that I backed off – he could make RM25k for that day. So much for the sake of passion. And thank God for that. I probably was about to make the biggest mistake of my life!
He somehow seem to be so proud of all the celebrities wedding he covered and people seem to blindly praised him for that. But deep down inside, I couldn’t help but feeling that he might have made the same offer he made me to upgrade his portfolio. So for me, it was quite hard to be so impressed with his list of past or future clients. And somehow I think a lot of his so-called achievements are self-proclaimed. But in terms of business and marketing, I gotta give it to him. Maybe that is what he should make his workshops based on, or wait a minute. Maybe he already has..
Anyway. With the current situation that is surrounding him I have nothing but pity. The things he said that caused all this – he probably didn’t mean any harm, but his cockiness didn’t do him good this time. I would actually feel stressed out if I know there are over 900 people hate me in this world, even a lot more seem to love me. Truthfully I am tempted to join this group, but I don’t think I hate him. I just dislike him. However it is, I just hope there will be happy ending to this and maybe a little humbleness on his side won’t hurt a bit.
Really.
I terus ingat u tau bila nampak page I hate ‘a photographer’. Macam baru je lagi kan case photopages tu.
wow..,x sangka jmpa extended version fr FB kt sini..i read every singleline.. and try put together what i’ve seen, read and heard ..
now only i can “see”..
Just hope you won’t have to experience it first hand like I did and the others.
Just posted my thoughts on this as my fb status. Disagree with the ‘hate’. Too strong of a word. Not that tempted to join, but definitely have been following the page. And was surprised to see what others think of him. Scared the s**t out of me too, you just never know what others might think of you!
What he said, wasn’t all that much to fuss over about, but I guess it’s all past issues as well, all bottled up, and that was just the breaking point for the rest to let it all out. Something like a time bomb just waiting to explode.
I have had my encounters with him. He’s alright, but I do understand, this ‘arrogance’ so many ppl have mentioned as well. Again, it worries me so much that I might be seen in a negative perspective as well. =\
I just hope, good will come out of this. And a lesson to us all.
I really miss your photos by the way, especially those travel ones! Such an inspiration. ^_^ And Daisy sangat gorgeous! Her name fits soooo beautifully.
Anna.
True, for someone like you who never had any experience with him will never have any reasons or even be tempted to join that club. But the things that he would do to bring you down once he feels that you’re a threat to him are appalling. He would push you to your farthest limit and won’t give up until you give in to the fact that he’s a bit cuckoo in the head. Pretending to be someone else, I remembered all the cursing and bad mouthed he did to me and all I could do was held it together so I would not sink to his level. People misunderstood me for all the wrong reasons because of him and suffice to say, he gave me bad name. When something like that happened to you, its easy to forgive. But to forget? I don’t think so. Even after that he still got my positivity over why he treated me such way. Protecting his ‘rice cooker’ but really, at what price? All I had at that time was optimism that Allah will be at the side to those who were being maltreated.
And you not need to worry of what people think of you. You only have to be yourself, but never underestimate the power of budi bahasa. We cannot control what people think of us, people will still talk even we do the most innocent things. But if we remember where we come from, keep our heads down and redha, insyAllah all will be good.
I really miss my photos too, and yours! I mean all your sexxayy self portraits. Hahaha. Can’t do them like you used to now eh, all mak orang soon. Hehehe.. Good thing you’re a photographer by profession now, at least there are things to keep you going on. As for me, being an architect is demanding enough, let alone with the little Daisy around, it’ll be years until I photograph like I used to again. Plus, where are all the darkrooms in Malaysia?! Sheeesh!
And thank you. Your baby surely will be gorgeous too.
Salam…Sue Anna, saya mungkin belum mengenali Sue Anna secara peribadi tapi alhamdulillah melalui blog Sue Anna yang saya baca, setakat ini Sue Anna ‘jauh’ daripada menjadi Si Polan. Moga terus kekal seperti Sue Anna sekarang walaupun sudah bergelar jutawan nanti π
Shaliza…saya juga belum berkesempatan mengenai Shaliza secara peribadi tapi seperti Sue Anna, sifat rendah diri dan tidak sombong masih tebal dalam diri Shaliza. Tahniah…moha terus sukses dalam kerjaya dan fotografi…oh sebelum terlupa, Sue Anna & Shaliza, saya dari dulu memang gemar karya fotografi anda berdua :: saya peminat anda berdua
Unsung Hero: InsyAllah. Semoga kita dijauhkan dari sifat takbur, bongkak dan riak. Amin.
Hrmm, I don’t know him at all to even comment on his personality, apart from the stuff I heard from people who’ve had first hand experience with him.
I do agree on the part about him making all his guys take pictures like him, and all those workshops are about teaching people to take pics like him. That’s the main reason why I often refuse to join classes, because I don’t want to be moulded into someone else’s style. I want to develop my own (hopefully).
As for him, humbleness can take him further I guess.
Thanks. That was only my opinion and glad someone seconded that.
Salam,
Hi Shaliza, I was and am ur fan last time during the fotopages time. I like ur works so much and sometimes envy how u can come out with the ideas. π
Will follow ur blog after this. π
oh yaa forgot to commend lah. hehe
For me he is a businessman than a photographer. HE did everythign for the sake of business. and i heard it somewhere telling that there’s no such thing as bad publicity. It’s only a publicity. Ture or not? He may creates haters and he is also creating a sympathiser. I am not a good writer, i can only write this long (short). π
*plink!*
i actually been brought here by a linjk in the ‘hate’ fanpage. after a few paragraphs, the name ‘shalizamokhtar’ came into my head especially when u mention photopages. scroll down furhter… yea, it is you. i actually enjoy your fotopages back then even though never leave any remarks. just being a lurker that time. god… this entry of yours really trigger back my memories since i was in UK too during your fotopages era. anyway, thanks for bringing back all those memories. as for the said photog, no comment. i sense his dark side long time ago already… during his early days and now it is confirmed! haha…
p/s- i actually got invited for your wedding but couldnt attend. my wife is fren of yours. thnks!
OMG !! Who’s your wife?! I only invited my very-very close friends. Habaq mai.
hihi.. then you can guess la who was not attending!!!
just add me in FB in you’ll know hihihi
Ariel: Errr.. I have 122 pending friend requests. Which one are you?
no i’m not on your pending list. u hav to search my profile using my email add and look up who my wife is π
btw, the ‘photog’s fan page in fb gone edi ah?… no gossip la like this.
they’ve created a new fan page….will not post any address here as to not tarnish shaliza’s name….nnti x psl2 shaliza kene serang kat sini plak π
anyway, i think like most of you…been following that photographer and shaliza for quite some time…even have the opportunity to read the “famous” shaliza’s comment in that photographer’s fotopages….just in minutes, x psl2 shaliza plak kene attack…just because she said that the pictures could be better and she expected more of him (i don’t really remember the comments, but i do understand what shaliza’s trying to say)…the funny thing is, semua yg attack shaliza on that site mostly will reply in malay…maybe they didn’t understand your comment in English kot….hehehe..no offence though….
like shaliza too, was tempted to use the photographer’s service during my wedding day…have a few options, so when i finally found the photog (Shaliza, we used the same wedding photog as yours!!!) that i like, i decided not to use the said photographer. Little did i know that the said photographer repeatedly calling my tunang (now wife) saying that i really wanted that person’s service.
but all that was in the past…and now i couldn’t care less. hopefully with HIS guidance, the self-proclaimed photographer would probably change his attitude and perception. I still can’t accept the photographer’s writing in the new blog. I know my English is not as polished as Shaliza’s, but if even I feel annoyed reading it, i don’t know what others would think.
lastly, to shaliza, really hope that you won’t stop taking pictures. i’m a photog too, but by passion only. your pictures has inspired me a lot. Comel sungguh Daisy yek!!! Hope you don’t mind that i imitated your style of pictures for my Yasmeen (Daisy and Yasmeen are of the same age!!!)
Wesz.
Well, my English pun still very substandard. There are others who write better, and you gotta appreciate his effort to write in English. If only people who got annoyed with the writings in his blog corrected him instead of banning him for using confusing English, I’m sure he would’ve improved by now. π
And owh, can I see this Yasmeen girl? I think its better to take photographs of babies as they are, instead of torturing them by putting in basket or drawers! Hahaha
Thank you !
“I think its better to take photographs of babies as they are, instead of torturing them by putting in basket or drawers! Hahaha”
Hahaha. That is certainly hilarious. Couldn’t agree more.
Quote from u.. βI think its better to take photographs of babies as they are, instead of torturing them by putting in basket or drawers! Hahahaβ
Hahaha..sy suke ayat ni.. :p
Saya pun suke. Sebab tu saya kate. Hahaha!
-agree with Anna on the ‘bottled up’ & ‘time bomb’ part
-agree with others on his continuos boasting hidden behind his humble words
-agree with many with ‘hate’ is not reallly what we felt.. more of a but ‘dislike’
like most people, I was indirectly affected by his manipulative words, no need to go into details, but its enough to judge how far some people would go just to market himself as the best there is.. self-proclaiming yourself as the best – would definitely attracts more blinded followers, as well as enemies..
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after more than a week, I was not surprise to see his ‘hate’ fans now reached 1k mark..
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I just hope this will be a lesson to all
Hi Shaliza,
I used to worship your photos before I’m convinced to buy myself a DSLR after having hard time to scan all the filmed photos and envying all the works you’ve posted on the fotopages.
The ‘photographer’ you were mentioning about was my junior back in my college time. He was one of the Usrah guys who I didn’t pay much attention on him but later he joined one of my programme I initiated for my ex-school so I felt so thankful to him for being able to join me at that time, even though personally I’m not so close to him.
Until today, I’m still in disbelief of what you guys were saying about this guy. I heard so many rumours (even another junior was telling me that he commented and complimented on his fotopages himself) and now you’re telling your very own experience.
I met him a few years back, I can sense his arrogance in his voice but I was not trying to be skeptical but I was pissed off as I commented his works on Ning Baizura, he answered me that those are taken by his apprentice. But nothing happened and I still felt nothing towards him.
I’m not going to side to anybody here, even though I joined in as the Fan just to get the groove of being inside it, and I strongly disagree of what he has done, but I just hope that someday, he will apologize to everyone he’s been harsh with.
I hope he’ll do the same to you. Claiming by backing off from doing your wedding can make him another 25k is the most arrogant claim I’ve ever heard.
And last time he told me he made 16k per day.
Anyway, I do still love your works. I hope you can post more of your works somewhere someday.
Thanks
-Izham-
I think he told me it was up to RM25k. Ah, RM16k or RM25k, money doesn’t mean anything when you have to hurt so many hearts to get it. Disrespect.
Hahha aku igt lagi ada ex housemate ahan (at that time I was visiting ahan at his house – oxford) tanya pasal mamat tu kat aku dan lebih mengejutkan dia mention yang mamat tu offer amik gambar for free for your wedding. At that time I was thinking that if you accept it, it will change a lot of people’s perception to you. Luckily, you reject it! Nice Shaliza… you made the right decision.
Yeee, I remember. Ahan told me, I was supposed to go to his house at that time but missed you! I think Ahan also asked for your advice on my behalf, which helped a lot, so thanks to you!
Hahaha.. dont thanks to me, thanks to you! Nasib baik nyahhh..
Anyway, I always want to meet you and fakhrul but never got a chance – inspire your work. Mungkin bila balik Msia nnt lah, kalau korang sudi huhu..
Kirim salam to Ahan and Fity kalau u jumpa diorang ok.. take care.
Tried to bring some sense to him once, but was immediately banned from his forum. He wants to maintain clean comments only.
Hi,
heard this story at futsal last friday, what a de-ja-vu!!! hehe π
“But even from the very beginning I never got a positive vibes about him.” i like this sentence most π
Yea Fly, Fakhrul & I were Gossip Girls on Friday night until 3am..
Hi Shaliza,
I like this post very much. for me, he pushes the wrong switch this time.. its like Russian Roulette, he has spun it many time but he is lucky, but not this time.. the bullet are his. π
hi shaliza.
great post. which exactly echoes my personal opinion towards him.
hafiz ismail don’t hate him, just dislike him.
π
His own brother joined too…at last..saya tahu betapa perit jerit dia menidakkan untuk join….as per what he mention in his FB last time…but nobody knows what happened to him too last time till now
Yea. What happened to him?! I wish he can justify to everyone why he joined the club. Even I don’t join. Hahaha.
I think we met once, albeit briefly at a Brazil vs Wales game, White Hart Lane, circa 2006. We have a mutual friend in Hazman Hilmi.
Intros aside, I was just at said facebook page, which I arrived at when one of my friends ‘invited’ me to join it. I opted not to join, because hate is a strong sentiment to feel about someone you’ve never met.
I’m quite glad you wrote this because it sort of took the words out of my mouth. Like you, I got less-than-positive vibes as well, and I couldn’t place the reason why. I don’t envy his lifestyle, or his car, or his visibility. I wish I had the time to learn the craft but at the end of the day I take pictures because I feel like it.
Still, however unfortunate this particular turn of events has been for him, there is a bigger point for reflection. It seriously feels like the comment he made which sparked the page was the final straw. Things have been brewing for a long time. And perhaps we should reflect on why they have been brewing. It can’t be just plain envy, can it?
Idlan. My apologies, but I’m having the hardest time trying to remember you. I remember that game though, man, what an experience! Shouting at Ronaldinho’s fine ass as he was taking corner kick. Hahaha.. we sat quite close to the field ya?
Anyway, thanks for your write up here. I can’t believe people found this and posted my blog in that Fan Page. Now I feel so naked!
I do really like what u express your feeling…and hope that he learn from this terrible mistake that he made himself…
Salam Shaliza,
how can you not be tempted to join in the “haters” if hundreds of yor frens do??
And plus he is still one of my contacts… I have to ask myself again and again why should I join?? He never did wrong or said anything that hurt my feelings, but then again I’m a nobody in this “industry” and maybe our path have not crossed yet…
And only those who have the experience first hand with him will know the true person behind the glorified(excessively in my opinion) name. And yes, you do have the right or reasons to choose wuttever side appropriate, but me… I’ll probably just stay the way I am, wuttever that is…
One thing I learnt from this tho, cockiness will take you nowhere…
A very good write-up on your side… and actually your page was discovered by my wife reading my FB hahahaha and then suddenly the name “shaliza mokhtar” strucked me as I think I’ve heard it before… a while ago… a quick seach in my flickr just confirmed that you are one of my flickr contacts(tho i’m not to you, it’s normal in flickr i guess…)
i never experience from this photographer first hand but all i can say… its a lesson for us to think about π
IHSN moved to new fun and happening Club at http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tak-suka-Saifulnang/271618053170
Shaliza,
I am one of your silent reader who adores your work and writing. And I also adore “this person”s pictures and writings as well. He hasn’t done anything wrong towards me, so I will just keep my thoughts of him to myself.
However, because of your posting here, it created a “new” stir and hatred towards this person. It is now even been pasted as the first posting in the new FB here at http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=271618053170&topic=12642. Seems like your story has been used as one of the many reasons to create hatred towards this person.
It is up to you of what to do next. You can leave it as it is over there, or you can do something to remove it. I believe that you have a strong mind of your own to decide.
Thank you.
p/s: if possible, please do not publish my comment here. tq.
Salmah
I honestly don’t think people were influenced by my writings alone, you have to give more credits to them. I think they are smarter to judge themselves, I didn’t even mention his name here and amended all comments that used his name directly. Its unfair to accuse my post created new stir or hatred whatsoever towards him, as a lot of other things were exposed about him in the page were enough to make people feel disgusted by his way of making statements or replying comments. I think he should use this current situation that is surrounding him to reflect on the things he did and be sorry for all the people he has offended. If he ever realized that..
Yes you’re right. It is up to me what to do next, so I’m leaving my post open. I hope people will look at my writing with positivity and try not to misunderstand my intentions of writing. Why should I restrain myself from writing when it is supported by facts and first hand experience, not assumptions. And don’t worry – people don’t hate him, now they only dislike. π
agreed with you dear sis.. i didn’t hate him.. just dislike his own attitude.. hope he know what he did.. which best for his own future..
anyway.. love your pics..~ keep it up the lovely photos..
Shaliza,
Just to let you know that your posting has been copy pasted here
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=271618053170&topic=12642#/topic.php?uid=271618053170&topic=12642
Thank you.
p/s: please do not publish my comment as I do not want more people to join the so said website as I do not have anything against him. tq.
Salmah
If you have nothing against him, you do not need to worry. Good for you.
To the person who copied and pasted my post in that page, kindly remove it please. I don’t want people to get the wrong message and misunderstood my intention. Many thanks.
hai shaliza, i started taking photos after i saw all your pictures and amused of how you can photograph life. but yours are far for to me to reach.
i was ‘His’ fan at first, because in 2006 , beautiful wedding pictures are rarely to be found. and i was naive at that time. but as time goes, i read all his entries in his blog,
and im a bit disturbed of how he keep on bragging about his achievements, how he helped people , sedekah ikhlas, and how he claimed he ‘s a humble person and at the same time keep on repeating on his big car, gears and the people he ‘touched’.
i am at the same time a friend of his brother which he hate the most in this world. he told me and showed me everything including messages from ‘Him’. and yet, he never bring this up and keep it to himself and his wife.
and i dont want to start about how he blackmail his own brother.
i dont know, i just think that he is so obsessed with his achievements
and drown with it.
I feel sorry for his brother if what you said were true. I can only hope that they will reconcile and he should never put money first before his own family. Money can be looked for, but a family?
A lot of things that are being exposed about him should be lesson to us all. May Allah protect us from such bad deeds.
Salam shaliza…I’m one of your silent followers during the fotopages days…am admiring your work until now…I’ve read about your wedding photographer issues..and i didn’t know it was him…Alhamdulliah you didn’t choose him:)…What about you…looking forward for your photos update in flickr:)
getting hot over here hehehehe i like him (snhhhhh) wakakakakak
Ouh, believe me. I did try (a few times) personally via email as to not be seen as “hater” in that person’s blog. It’s a pity, with all that money the said person has, should have done something to improve the write-up. Perhaps taking criticism is not that person’s forte.
Of course you can see Yasmeen!!! just find me in FB ye (that’s my real email btw). My wife really adores Daisy’s pictures. Did try to emulate your style, but i think it will be a very longgg journey for me to even have your skills and views….hehehe…i wanted to add you in FB at first, but after seeing that you have 120 friend requests, i hesitated….hehehe…
will try to capture the “standing” pose, just like what your cute Daisy did…hopefully when Yasmeen’s 3 (she’s just about 2 months now)…we’ll have the opportunity to do so…
lastly, please keep the pictures coming okay π
omg Shaliza!
i remember following your fotopages. as i read your para “Photography to me is personal. I honestly do not know how to answer when people ask how I do it. Itβs just the way I see things. Only you yourself know the things in the world that are significant to you. Your interests which usually become your subject matter are only yours and yours alone. It might be the same to others, but the ways of seeing are never is” i remember how you expressed yourself with your photos and now, reading this blog entry, i experience you expressing with words a picture i can totally relate to.
thank you for sharing. unlike when i first started enjoying a camera during the fotopages days, i’ve been shooting photos over the past year to mainly earn income. i’ve recently felt the need to feed my photography soul with photo i used to enjoy shooting. after reading your blog, i’m sure i’m gonna take time off to shoot for my “soul”. thank you for inspiring me yet again. May Allah bless you and your family.
And you! Its not a bad thing to earn your income from photography, as I respect those who are brave enough to venture out like that. If only I have the same courage and confidence. But always remember where you come from and never forget why you photograph at the first place – for the love of it!
Hi Shaliza, I like what you wrote.
SALAM, Bazuki Muhammad.
Wow, even you?
Thanks..w’salam.
tapi.. i did’t hate him, i did’t like him.. i love him.. huahahahahaha…
Good for you. At times like this, he needs all the love he can get π
Glad to “find” u back in here….
Thanks for sharing……
Salam..
well written by you shaliza.. my wife was a big fan of your work.. i think she is still until now..
salam
Then send my love to your wife. π
hi, some one give me your link to me.. Its good reading on the issue. Great way of putting it.
I do not personally know the person but i did some online search about his background. yes, i wasted my valuable time on the person. i dont hate him. I just want to verify facts and and maybe i’ll go to London to verify his credentials.
He was lacking basic photography fundamentals with his statements and yet he proudly misguided his fellow followers.
I agree Photography is a personal business. So our good name , attitude will bring clients and more jobs. Real professionals in photgraphy do not make enemies out of fellow photo enthusiast. We support each other and that will bring out ouf creativity.
Many businessmen had venture into photography with wrong reason and making statements that shot them in the foot . They are not sincere and this greed shrouds their creative minds. ( if they have any in the first place).
Thanks
Mahayudin
Can’t think of any better ways to say it the way you did. That is just so true. Even for us architects, professionally we protect each other by obeying certain rules that are being set up by our board to protect our profession. Only amateurs don’t posses the same conscience.
Thank you for sharing your thought with us.
Hi shaliza…
i like ur work …. i like ur writing …. and i am agree with all of it …
I also the one who paste this link on my FB (if i am the only one), i just want to share with other about ur article which i think is good to share. Notice from ur previous comment u ask to remove the link. Its ok, respect the owner of this good article i ll remove it.
Sorry if u re not comfortable with this sharing thing . π
Hi Hafiz.
I don’t mind posting the link, but no need the cut+paste. Just direct them here should be fine. After all its bloody obvious who I write about yes?
ops…. i just paste the link actually … so i guest i am not the one who paste the content of ur article … π
yeah … for me it is so obvious who is it since i hv already heard his stories for a long time π
emmmmmmm…. sara, i like it!!!
Of cozzzzz!
i am one of your follower since your good old fotopages days. Your work and beca-(try google her works if u donno her) are my all time favs. because all your works have outstanding feelings and emotional. i cant describe that, but every single photos has its own feelings. now both of u not photographs alot like the old days, with the same reason!-family commitment(i guess).
Anyway, back to your article.he’s one of my fav once i bought my dslr back in 2006.but that wasn’t that long after i start to find other photographers and read his fotopages and blog. he just too much obsess to what he achieve;cars, money, respects etc. so boring.. n i found it more menyampah after read his forum, photoskool. he and his fellow fanatics always scold somebody with different views. i remember one guy that try to get a photog for his wedding(if no mistaken) in the forum for only 200rm. what that guy got is maki hamun. he just asking around for God sake! ‘the said photographer’ scold him lots as saying he put the forum member as no maruah for just ask a wedding shoot for 200rm. he even ask him to buy a pakaibuang camera for his wedding n get the hell out of teh forum. wtf! and all of his freaking folowers seconded his boss. the funny part is most of the ‘vocal’ followers not even know how to shoot proper. n they still claim their shots worth at least 800. sigh..
this a lesson learn to all of us, whatever field you in.u’re not always on top. what goes around comes around.
n shaliza,pls continue shooting. we always waiting for new works. as for daisy,my baby asiah is same age with you.hopefulyy someday somewhere there’ll be friend.hehe.keep up the good works!
Yes, I am also familiar with Siti Rokhmah’s works. Lovely works too. Too bad for girls like us will always have to put things on hold because we just love our family so much! If only guys would do the same. Hahaha…
I particularly despise people who thinks so greatly of themselves that they think they have the right to tell someone that he/she photographed wrong. Only bad photographers or commoners in photography world would think that there is a right or wrong in photography. Do they know that there is no such thing as wrong art or right art? Art is just art, simple as that. Oh wait a minute, they’re not artists. Just wannabes.
And how the hell do you know your works is worth certain number? 800 or 80,000? It might worth only a penny for all you know. Sheesh! Well, thats juts me. That’s why I think I might just die a poor, failed artist. But satisfied!
Hi Shaliza,
Obviously I was brought to your blog from Bazuki’s. Glad you are back into the limelight and am lookng forward to your latest works.
About him – well, so many people have commented including you and I just couldn’t agree more. That’s what will happen when arrogance gets the better of you. You will end up being hated by the members of your own fraternity. Can’t imagine anything worse than that for a photographer.
Damn right. That’s the worst thing that can happen for a photographer. Pity!
And I also look forward for my latest works. Cannot wait!
Tiap2 hr sy tggu update u shz..through my blog link..dan post kali ni buat sy tambah seronok baca ape yg u tulis slalu..
Xmau ckp psl “the person” tu..sbb not in person kenal dia..+ dah lama xbukak blog dia baca..xmemberi inspirasi pon..huhu..
Tp ironinya..sy kenal shz dr link kt fp dia dulu..n sejak tu..sy dah xberganjak lg..
Thanks Shz..for giving me the nspirations..
Inspirasi yang dipinjamkan dari Tuhan. Ambil lah! π
“I think its better to take photographs of babies as they are, instead of torturing them by putting in basket or drawers! Hahaha”
Hahaha good one shaliza π
*been looking for your latest works(photos) since your fotopages site when hiatus. surprised to find your blog from the “fan” site. nice to see your photos again π (now with cute lil daisy as your model)
Hahaha! I think that was a good one too. π
Salam,
Shaliza…
I couldn’t agree more…
Sebagai manusia, apa saja bentuk tindakan, perlakuan dan sebagainya adalah lebih manis jika ia dizahirkan, dituturkan dengan berhemah dan penuh adab sopan. Setinggi mana pun kehebatan, kejayaan dan anugerah yang dicapai seseorang, tiada maknanya jika diiringi dengan sifat riak, sombong, meninggi diri, ego, dsb. Pendek kata tak akan kekal lama makhluk yang seperti ini. Salahkah jika kita sentiasa merendahkan diri, bersopan dalam tutur kata walaupun diri amat hebat sekali pencapaiannya? Tak salahkan? Terutama sekali manusia yg bergelar bangsa Melayu, tutur katanya berlapik, sopan, berbudi pekerti, tata susilanya terjaga. Agaknya nilai-nilai itu semakin lama semakin hilang ditelan zaman. Walaupun kajayaan demi kejayaan, pencapaian demi pencapaian, era baru, pemikiran baru, stail baru, citarasa baru, kereta baru… adab, budi bahasa dan tutur kata tak usahlah dibaru atau dimodenkan.
Yang kurik itu kendi,
Yang merah itu saga,
Yang baik itu budi,
Yang indah itu bahasa.
Adab?
Budi?
Bahasa?
Apa yang ada dengan adab?
Bos boleh memaki hamun, memarahi pekerjanya dengan sesuka hati? Salahkah jika ditegur dengan bahasa yang elok? Sebab diri sendiri jadi Bos makanya tidak perlu menjaga adab? Jatuhkah maruah bos jika menegur dengan bahasa yng elok? Bagaimana pula adab dengan pelanggan? Boleh sesuka hati melemparkan kata2 kesat?
Adab dengan manusia lain? Bolehkah dikutuk, dihina, diperlekehkan sesedap rasa?.. Sebab citarasa yg berlainan maka wajarkah ia diejek dan dipandang lekeh? Kalau dia memperlekehkan orang lain, tiba masanya orang-orang lain pulak akan memperlekehkan dia. Inilah situasi yang berlaku sekarang.
Allah Maha Besar, Allah Maha Hebat, Allah Maha Mendengar.
Tiada manusia yang lebih hebat dan besar dari Nya,
dan Allah itu Maha Mendengar doa-doa orang yang teraniaya, orang2 yang dihina, orang2 yang dikutuk dan sebagainya.
Secara peribadi, saya tidak menyangka yg pada hari ini, timbul dan meletup juga topik panas yang sudah lama memendam rasa bak gunung berapi yg hanya menunggu masa saja untuk meletup. Kuasa Allah, tiada siapa yang tahu. ‘Subject matter’ dalam kes ini patut tahu apa yg dia sudah lakukan sehingga keadaan meletus dengan sebegini rupa. Balik rumah cuba dia cermin dan renungkan balik perbuatan2 dia terhadap orang lain. Bukan balik tengok cermin sebab nak bela jambul bagi jadi macam Donald Trump! Dia boleh berdrama pada fan2nya yang beribu-ribu lemon tu.. iya lah.. itu sebab diaorang tak tahu cerita sebenar. Boleh lah dia nak menafikan, kan?.. Boleh lah di situ dia berbahasa dan berlakon macam pijak semut pun tak mati!
Shaliza,
Masih ingat tak lagi kes dia menghina dan memperlekehkan photographer yg awak pilih untuk ‘hari besar’ awak dulu tu? Ok, itu baru satu kes. Mesti ada banyak lagi kes2 yg serupa itu terjadi pada photographer2 lain.
Kalau tiada angin masakan pohon ceri bergoyangkan…. Jahat sangatkah orang2 sekeliling ni nak buat fitnah dengan mengada-adakan cerita2 sebegini, cthnya cerita you ni dan ‘fan page’ IHSN macam tu pada dia? Orang pun banyak kerja lain la wahai Dato’! Sudah-sudah lah tu… buang lah perangai hasad dengki awak yg meluap2 tak boleh tengok orang lebih sikit. Buanglah sifat riak dan sombong yang ada dalam hati sanubari awak tu Dato’! Bercakaplah dengan benar… tak payahlah mengada-adakan cerita yang sememangnya tak ada untuk menguntung dan menaikkan nama/perniagaan awak, Dato’!
Dan janganlah berselindung disebalik wajah awak yg nampak macam naif tapi sebenarnya tidak… Allah tahu tau… Mungkin awak tak sedar apa yang awak dah buat… Lagi satu, orang yang biasa berbohong, dalam situasi apa pun dan dalam apa keadaan sekalipun dia mesti nak berbohong. Renung2kan dan selamat berubah.
Yes, saya masih ingat. Saya lagi rela bekerjasama dengan orang yang rendah diri dan berbudi bahasa, walaupun kerjanya tak seberapa. Tapi alhamdulillah kerja Nazim Zafri lebih bagus dari dia pada mata saya, jadi bertuah badan lah saya pada masa tu dapat bekerjasama dengan orang yang lemah lembut tutur bahasa dan tak mengejar duit semata-mata. Harap Nazim masih seperti dulu.
Terima kasih kerana penulisan awak disini. Harapan saya semoga si dia membacanya.
Salam Shaliza,
Alhamdulillah, Nazim Zafri dulu, kini dan selamanya insyaallah masih seperti itu. I know him very2 well. And thank you for appreciating his work. :))
dah lama cari blog akak. la ni baru jumpa
Alahai, betul ke dah lama. Google kan ada? π Anyway, terima kasih la susah susah mencari. So sweet.
I heard a lot of stuff about his arrogance but to be fair to him, when he did my cousin’s wedding, he was very polite. ohh. maybe there were at least 50 Tengkus there so maybe he put his attitude in check. haha.
I asked him to help take pictures of me with the bride & groom. I told him it’s for my facebook. After he took, he said “Jangan lupa kasi kredit dekat I yer”. I was appalled that he said that. No photogs have ever said that to me. As a rule of thumb, I will not take credits for photos I didn’t shoot, but sometimes I just don’t mention who shot my pictures because I ALWAYS, ALWAYS ask people to help me shoot using my little Ixus. Yelaa nak muka dalam camera sendiri kenalaa orang lain tangkapkan. So memang biasala kalau gamba sendiri orang lain tangkapkan.
The picture is nice, but ain’t that great. And I don’t like wasting precious caption line just to mention his name. So I tag him instead I think. Sheesh. Orang Melayu cakap “hadap sangat” nak kredit. Kata dah famous, does he need validation from a nobody like me?
I know you are just too kind with your words, but I have to say this. I’ve always wanted to say this for a long long time, so I’m just gonna say it. For a millionaire like him, I wonder why can’t he spend a bit of money to pay someone to proof-read his official content like the “About Me” or whatever else he puts in his website.
For someone ‘internationally’ known, he should have paid someone to edit his writings so it sounds more professional. For someone who married a UK Ivy League Grad, it’s disappointing.
My English is not even as good as yours, but I always cringe each time I read what he wrote in English. Even my 13 year old sister could construct better sentences.
I don’t think he’s internationally known, I think he struggles greatly to be known. As I said, self-proclaimed. I still have to walk a thousand miles to find another person who knows him. Maybe that’s why he never bothered to improve his language or better yet, himself for that matter. Nevermind your 13 yrs old sister, my 3 yrs old nephew Adam can speak better English than that. Or at least, I understand Adam better!
Lets just hope he will improve himself, on all areas we so much find him lacking of, insyAllah. π
well said shz.. i can make a karangan about him, but cam malas n not worth my time.. biarlah dia dgn his fantasy world π
No. He’s not worth your time. That’s why I called him unworthy. Don’t bother.
“Walau setinggi manapun kita terbang..pandanglah ke bawah” π
Tan Sri Mokhtar Al Bukhari
salam shaliza
i may be a little bit lambat to read ur post here (somebody forwarded this link to me) so since ive lost ur current blog link, saye pon bace lah! heee
im missjay, i used to crave on your wonderful works everyday during my early days in photography π and, im the so called person’s exstaff for 2years. i even know him through ur fp link, bcoz if i dont view ur links at that time, i probably wouldnt know him and wouldnt have got anything to do with him. but i have to admit, ive learned a lot when i work with him. he’s much of a great teacher actually n i couldnt thank him enough for that. but no, not a good boss he turned out to be after 2008..he’s better and waaaay better during my earlier days in there.if i lied, we wouldnt have made a great team. things changed, and saye sedih die tak mcm yg saye kenal mase saye keje hujung 2006-2007, i dont know why. i think that he fits on being a teacher better..n i just hope that he realize why is this happening, not blaming others. Allah is not that kejam to let anything bad happens to you for no reason, i always tell myself if anything goes wrong, look into the mirror.kita ni pon bukannya bagus sgt pun kan.i sort of pity him when things gets worst like this, after all his hard work to sustain his name n company, but like i said, look into mirror. and what u have done to others. im sorry that i have to agree to most of the comments, everywhere, here, and the fb fan page (im not a fan) bcoz i dont want to hate/dislike him more. however bad he is, i still remember that ive learned so many things from him, yg baik, saya ingat. yg buruk pon saya ingat and masih lagi terase pedihnya. so funny ive quit nearly 1 year n a half now and still concern about the juicy gossips about him :P, (believe me, i dont want to! people kept texting me about that including exclients!) ade tak org kat luar sana lepas benti keje masih ckp psl exboss setahon-2tahon kemudian? π
this is the first time i write about him in someone else’s blog whereas he always “mengeluh” about his exstaffs since we’ve left. we never wrote anything about him until he did, so we are fair now right? huhu. i dont want to say more. becoz i know everything. if i start, i cant stop. so what i can just say is i love you shaliza and i miss ur inspiring works. ngeee π
“Photography to me is personal. I honestly do not know how to answer when people ask how I do it. Itβs just the way I see things. Only you yourself know the things in the world that are significant to you. Your interests which usually become your subject matter are only yours and yours alone. It might be the same to others, but the ways of seeing are never is. This is my basic understanding with photography and this is how photography varies.”
truly agree with this π
hi shaliza, ur name reminds me about ur nostalgic fotopages. Back in2004/5. Unfortunately you are no longer in the UK. I had a plan last time before u back for good to meet you and ur hubby there. Suddenly, u r already in Msia. Keep writing,i love reading,my buddy Engku up there.
me nor photog.me only a man who just click for nothing…:)
as for ur subject matter here, he’s my coursemate…no comment cos i dont bother bout others, i dont owe ppl’s money,ppl dont owe my money π
-salam from Glasgow
Hi. So sorry you didn’t catch me in UK. I was back in August, last year. Anyway thanks for dropping by.
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